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[GG2RBY]

i care

gj orph!

[ajf]

I have a long list of todo items
so if that teeworlds port doesn't get off the ground then I'm sorry

[notarctic]

I am still learning python but good job orpheon

[Nukleus]

hi

[Orpheon]

Guys. I found the secret of productivity: Isolation. Go for a few days in the mountains with nothing but headphones and a laptop with no games on it, and wonders shall occur.

That's what I did these last few days, and the result is 24 commits achieving a completely working interpolation and smooth networking.

https://github.com/PyGG2/PyGG2/pull/11

Giving you guys (in case anyone has time to) a few days to check it before I pull.

[Phantom Brave]

considering that pygg2 is in an urgent state of "bad networking", you should probably just do it.

[Orpheon]

considering that pygg2 is in an urgent state of "bad networking", you should probably just do it.

Alright, if both you and AJF tell me to pull, I will.

EDIT: Grghvcbrhfhvbvchxfrd, git merging automatically.
I'm just force pushing.


A few comments:
The interpolation buffer length was chosen more or less randomly, and so was this value: https://github.com/PyGG2/PyGG2/blob/master/client/networker.py#L141 (constants.PHYSICS_TIMESTEP).
The latter I am unsure how to solve the problem of the packet being far away from the client state. Do we still just extrapolate, or do we jump and hope the user doesn't notice it? And what is the limit for this jump?

If someone could look over the rocket code, that would also be nice. In particular, I'd like whoever invented "speed += 1; speed *= 0.92" to check this:

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   def step(self, game, state, frametime):
        # FIXME: MAKE THIS WORK FOR NEGATIVE frametime!
        # GMK-GG2 tried to emulate basic acceleration and air resistance with two simple instructions:
        # [execute 30 times per second]
        # speed += 1
        # speed *= 0.92
        # Underneath is the same thing converted to work with frametime.
        # PS: If you ever have the chance, please bash whoever had the idea of a non-standard exponential function for a rocket in an 8-bit game on the head. Thank you.
        self.speed /= 30
        n = 30 * frametime
        self.speed = (0.92**n) * self.speed + 0.92*((1 - (0.92**n))/(1 - 0.92))
        self.speed *= 30

        self.hspeed = math.cos(math.radians(self.direction)) * self.speed * function.sign(frametime)
        self.vspeed = math.sin(math.radians(self.direction)) * (-self.speed) * function.sign(frametime)Finally, I don't understand the collision code well enough to make be 100% sure that what I did fixed the issues it had with negative frametime.

[Phantom Brave]

it models a rocket with accel and friction, obviously

[NAGN]

Guys. I found the secret of productivity: Isolation. Go for a few days in the mountains with nothing but headphones and a laptop with no games on it, and wonders shall occur.

That's what I did these last few days, and the result is 24 commits achieving a completely working interpolation and smooth networking.

https://github.com/PyGG2/PyGG2/pull/11

Giving you guys (in case anyone has time to) a few days to check it before I pull.

thanks orpheon, wareya and ajf aren't on the project anymore, so you don't really need to wait on their approval, though I probably should have looked this over before you forced pushed

[Orpheon]

Guys. I found the secret of productivity: Isolation. Go for a few days in the mountains with nothing but headphones and a laptop with no games on it, and wonders shall occur.

That's what I did these last few days, and the result is 24 commits achieving a completely working interpolation and smooth networking.

https://github.com/PyGG2/PyGG2/pull/11

Giving you guys (in case anyone has time to) a few days to check it before I pull.

thanks orpheon, wareya and ajf aren't on the project anymore, so you don't really need to wait on their approval, though I probably should have looked this over before you forced pushed

Hey NAGN, could you implement map entities in pygg2 that are compatible with your GB? That would be the next thing to do imo, barring maybe polygon collision.

[NAGN]

possibly, but my version of Garrison builder isn't complete yet, and I'm busy dealing with a lot of other things

[Orpheon]

possibly, but my version of Garrison builder isn't complete yet, and I'm busy dealing with a lot of other things

Ok. Lets get GMK gg2 update rolling out first, and then do this.

[A_SN]

I realise this must have been said 100 times in this thread already and it must be getting tiring to hear, but Python is a terrible choice. First of all because who knows Python (lots of people do, but still only a fraction of programmers, whereas nearly all understand C/C++ for instance) and then because as a user you have to jump through many hoops to get the thing running, kinda gets in the way of adoption. It goes without saying but if I'd made and distributed my main program this way well I would have had to get a real job by now.

Anyway, I also have something almost constructive to say: Can we translate this thing into C/C++ using the assistance of something like Cython/PyPy/Nuitka/shed skin? If so I'd be willing to help (and I'm sure more non-Python developers would like to do that too), right now I'm working on making vector games out of my 2D/3D vector engine, but I'd love to contribute to working on GG2 in C or C++. If not then screw you guys I'm going home and I'll make a half vector half pixel art (maybe even half 3D, you could turn maps 3D by turning floor/wall pixels into extruded cubes and leaving the rest of the background maps on a 'wall') ripoff of GG2 as soon as I can figure out how to read map PNGs (I know how to load regular PNGs with libpng but how the heck do you get the wallmask and the entities out of the PNG file? Honestly I have no idea how this is stored and after googling it I couldn't find anything about it).

[Derpduck]

For maps just look in the GB source, and the custom map scripts in the GG2 source.

[Phantom Brave]

they're stored in the png metadata as a string