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[Phantom Brave]

Order of packets is *imperative* to input. You cannot skip any and they must be processed in order.

[Orpheon]

Order of packets is *imperative* to input. You cannot skip any and they must be processed in order.

No. Half the input is in the gamestate and is independent of order, and the rest are events, who are order and time-dependent, but packets don't care about that.

Networking in PyGG2 is finished and works, if people really want to continue to discuss it, please make sure to understand the current system beforehand.

[Phantom Brave]

Half the input is in the gamestate and is independent of order

wat

[Orpheon]

Half the input is in the gamestate and is independent of order

wat

Movement input is instantaneous, skipping a frame is not noticeable, so no need to make it reliable.

[Phantom Brave]

1) how is that possible
2) how does movement prediction work
3) do you even run inputs on the server like a normal modern game engine
4) also if the answer to 3 is "yes" then you do need to make sure that input messages are received in the correct order with none missed

[Orpheon]

1) how is that possible
2) how does movement prediction work
3) do you even run inputs on the server like a normal modern game engine
4) also if the answer to 3 is "yes" then you do need to make sure that input messages are received in the correct order with none missed

With input we mean the same thing, right? I am only talking of left/right acceleration, and possibly about jumping which is a special case.
Right now I'm on my phone though, so writing long posts is annoying.
I'll write the details Sunday.

[Nova]

This may be a dumb question, but how "done" is this as of now. It seems like there is some cool stuff in there and a lot less dumb-shit stuff, so having something like a percentage to know would be nice.

[notarctic]

almost not never not done

[Orpheon]

This may be a dumb question, but how "done" is this as of now. It seems like there is some cool stuff in there and a lot less dumb-shit stuff, so having something like a percentage to know would be nice.

The game itself I would estimate at around 50-60%, barring big surprises.

This is not counting the problem of packaging, because I seriously have no idea of the effort needed for that.

[Saniblues]

So, a problem I noticed. Both with this and the gml copy of the game.

Both of them have problems with offline stuff. Snagging or sending data causes both to fall apart, particularly in pygg2 when my server ceases function entirely and the game freezes up. Perhaps there's some way to like, prevent this?

Its when it attempts to send server data to the lobby.

[Inconceivable!]

Hello, I've played gg2 before and have just found this thread. I happen to be close to finishing the python course in codecademy.com, which I realize is not much experience, but I'd like to assist in the development of pygg2. I will probably have to learn a lot and do things I've never done before but I can't think of any way to learn programming better. I'm about to start working on my computer science degree, and think this would be an excellent project for me to help with considering the relative simplicity of the game(or perhaps it's not simple)

I'm likely way out of my depth, so tell me if I am but I thought I'd ask. I'm willing and eager to learn anything and everything.

[NumLock]

I happen to be close to finishing the python course in codecademy.com, which I realize is not much experience, but I'd like to assist in the development of pygg2. I will probably have to learn a lot and do things I've never done before but I can't think of any way to learn programming better.

I'm likely way out of my depth, so tell me if I am but I thought I'd ask. I'm willing and eager to learn anything and everything.

Same

[Inconceivable!]

I happen to be close to finishing the python course in codecademy.com, which I realize is not much experience, but I'd like to assist in the development of pygg2. I will probably have to learn a lot and do things I've never done before but I can't think of any way to learn programming better.

I'm likely way out of my depth, so tell me if I am but I thought I'd ask. I'm willing and eager to learn anything and everything.

Same

Now if we can get the help of somebody who knows what they're doing, maybe we can make some progress 

[Derpduck]

I happen to be close to finishing the python course in codecademy.com, which I realize is not much experience, but I'd like to assist in the development of pygg2. I will probably have to learn a lot and do things I've never done before but I can't think of any way to learn programming better.

I'm likely way out of my depth, so tell me if I am but I thought I'd ask. I'm willing and eager to learn anything and everything.

Same

Now if we can get the help of somebody who knows what they're doing, maybe we can make some progress 

Well it might be very hard to get the original team to work on it; Wareya and AJF refuse to work on it, nightcracker has disappeared, I think NAGN said he would be willing to work on it but he isn't around much anymore, and Orpheon might work on it but I'm not so sure.

[Inconceivable!]

I happen to be close to finishing the python course in codecademy.com, which I realize is not much experience, but I'd like to assist in the development of pygg2. I will probably have to learn a lot and do things I've never done before but I can't think of any way to learn programming better.

I'm likely way out of my depth, so tell me if I am but I thought I'd ask. I'm willing and eager to learn anything and everything.

Same

Now if we can get the help of somebody who knows what they're doing, maybe we can make some progress 

Well it might be very hard to get the original team to work on it; Wareya and AJF refuse to work on it, nightcracker has disappeared, I think NAGN said he would be willing to work on it but he isn't around much anymore, and Orpheon might work on it but I'm not so sure.

I totally understand, not everybody has to time to devote themselves to a cause for which they receive very little if any compensation. My compensation would be learning from the experience pretty much. As well as something of a resume for future employers.

All I need would be enough involvement from somebody experienced that I can do it myself or with others if they want to help. NumLock here seems like he's like to help as well.