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[nightcracker]

Why does nc insist on reinventing the wheel with pygrafix?

If you don't like that pyglet uses ctypes, then make a wrapper for it, instead of rolling your own library which mashes together code which is under several different licenses which are potentially conflicting.

That there is the problem. Ctypes is a wrapper. In Python, wrapping is very expensive. Pygrafix is an effort to reduce wrapping for improved performance.

Plus I don't like some parts of pyglet.

[nightcracker]

Nightcracker, get back over here and add depth in pygrafix.

I don't really see how else we can fix this intelligently.

Nope. Pygame didn't have depth either.

Pygrafix is really simple: the latest thing drawn gets drawn on top. If you want something on top you have to draw it later.

I will get back on PyGG2 Soon (tm), but currently my laptop is broken again and I'm a bit of trouble with school, so not yet.

[Orpheon]

Nightcracker, get back over here and add depth in pygrafix.

I don't really see how else we can fix this intelligently.

Nope. Pygame didn't have depth either.

Pygrafix is really simple: the latest thing drawn gets drawn on top. If you want something on top you have to draw it later.

I will get back on PyGG2 Soon (tm), but currently my laptop is broken again and I'm a bit of trouble with school, so not yet.

I never said it was in pygame, I'm saying it was in Game Maker and not having it is pretty dumb.

[notajf]

Why does nc insist on reinventing the wheel with pygrafix?

If you don't like that pyglet uses ctypes, then make a wrapper for it, instead of rolling your own library which mashes together code which is under several different licenses which are potentially conflicting.

That there is the problem. Ctypes is a wrapper. In Python, wrapping is very expensive. Pygrafix is an effort to reduce wrapping for improved performance.

Plus I don't like some parts of pyglet.

erm wat

you're using ctypes stuff anyway whether you like it or not
and furthermore, this may be premature optimisation - gg2 is not terribly graphics-heavy

[MedO]

To be fair GM does not have depth in the actual graphics layer either, it merely calls the draw events of objects in z-order. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful to have it as a graphics feature, and the pygame argument is really weak.

[Orpheon]

Ahh...We still have to implement it somehow, be it in Rendering.py or in pygrafix. And seeing as this has to be called constantly, pygrafix written in Cython would be the more logical choice.

[nightcracker]

Why does nc insist on reinventing the wheel with pygrafix?

If you don't like that pyglet uses ctypes, then make a wrapper for it, instead of rolling your own library which mashes together code which is under several different licenses which are potentially conflicting.

That there is the problem. Ctypes is a wrapper. In Python, wrapping is very expensive. Pygrafix is an effort to reduce wrapping for improved performance.

Plus I don't like some parts of pyglet.

erm wat

you're using ctypes stuff anyway whether you like it or not
and furthermore, this may be premature optimisation - gg2 is not terribly graphics-heavy

pygrafix is not limited to GG2 (or that's the plan ).

But you're wrong, I use direct C code for calling C code with Cython. I don't use ctypes.

[Orpheon]

Ok, I think the networking is stable enough for us to do a long-range test. People, please port forward to UDP if you can, and come in the PyGG2 skype group or the IRC and we can try to connect.

[Orpheon]

Tested with NAGN (who lives in US), and it worked.

The latency wasn't noticeable at all for shooting or movement but was very noticeable for jumping.
When you press jump, the character tries to continuously jump and gets corrected by the server until the server receives the message (about ~0.5 secs later) that you've jumped.

Using a jump event might solve this.
Or some form of client interpolation...

[Phantom Brave]

Dead Reckoning/input prediction, then smooth errors out over N frames, just like source.

[Orpheon]

Ok, added a jump event, which btw also fixes double-jump, and yeah, it didn't help enormously.

I'll work on some input prediction, but now school will start again soon, so I won't have large amounts of time.

[nightcracker]

Ok, added a jump event, which btw also fixes double-jump, and yeah, it didn't help enormously.

I'll work on some input prediction, but now school will start again soon, so I won't have large amounts of time.

Wait you had holiday? o.0

[notajf]

I have not time atm, only like 2 weeks of school left before study leave and final exams.
Fuck yeah, Scotland

[Orpheon]

Ok, added a jump event, which btw also fixes double-jump, and yeah, it didn't help enormously.

I'll work on some input prediction, but now school will start again soon, so I won't have large amounts of time.

Wait you had holiday? o.0

No I did not, weekend.

[Saniblues]

Need any sprites done? I'm like a spriter or something.