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[Catman]

I came back to look for something but I guess I'm not gonna find it now because it's in one of those hidden boards rip.

I'll say it in case it means anything to anyone, I was looking for a thread where a guy did art impressions of a bunch of members and for me they did a parody of the goggles guy from the music video for Extra by Ken Ishii since I used to have a gif of that as an avatar.

[free crzy]

Our posts still exist so idgi either

[VerticalHorizon]

It was discussed amongst upper staff and generally agreed upon that we should clean up all the bloat, and in the best case scenario, make boards for on-topic discussion pertaining to the game and any future projects that are opened under our banner (if any come to fruition). The alternative would have just been to take the entire forum down instead -- saving discussions is the compromise.

Or here's a better alternative; maybe pin a few important/noteworthy topics to the top of their respective subforums, and make everything read only. Nobody can post, no indiscriminate scorching of Earth required! You're trying to fix something that isn't broken.

is he really taking it down because we all said the pewdiepie word tons of times over the course of 15+ years

It has generally been agreed upon that there is not an actual reason to keep the forum public anymore since most of the discussion happens on the Discord.

Okay, why? What harm is being done by just leaving it open? The only reason you gave was because leadership has categorization autism or something.

 Excuse me for sounding dramatic but this is basically virtual grave desecration; you just made 99.5% of the forms content inaccessible for no reason. I can't think of any reasonable motive behind this besides an arsonist's glee/reveling in the power of destruction. The only reason I'm posting this because I logged on to browse to find all my shit deleted for no reason.

[free crzy]

hence why i want forum gems back even if it's just for like 1-2 threads

they can just admit it's because we all said no-no words growing up since times were different but i guess they don't want to for some reason

[orrgaaszm]

Thats cool man!!

[BlackDoomer]

I agree with @VerticalHorizon and would like to add my own five cents.

- Do you think we should keep the forums running for GG2 related discussions?

I would say that for discussions on specific questions and/or problems - yes, it does. But for general community chatter and shitposting, Discord is actually much better suited. But it quickly fades away as soon as it comes to detailed conversations on complex topics that can be carried on for a long time and to which people has to refer or return from time to time (GitHub too, btw). Development-related conversations are good example. We at doom2d.org also have Discord, IRC, Telegram, and a Matrix-like solution to gateway all of this bi-directionally, but in the very end it turned out to be a mess compared to the forum when it comes to serious talks and decision-making. Beyond that, it's still a history that shows the respectful age of the project and its maturity. Recently a miraculously preserved partial backup of the our old forum was found, and that's why we are going to merge it into ours current - posts there date back right up to 2005!

- Do you think we should also have a board or two for things vaquely related to GG2, like Game Maker development?

It sounds like a good idea, but it's actually not, because there are much better places exist for such communities. Any discussion on the notorious GameMaker here will inevitably relate to GG2 in one way or another.

- Is there any content on the old forums that you think should be saved? Please be as specific as possible.

At the very least:

• Any discussion related to the development. There's simply nothing to negotiate.
• All announcements and news.
• Any content published for the game (maps, plugins, mods, utils, etc).

[free crzy]

whyd you delete my posts i was right wasnt i

[free crzy]

so what's the hold up with adding back the threads we've all requested and never really did any harm to this place to begin with

[free crzy]

how has it taken almost an entire year for you guys to restore it

[free crzy]

You may have noticed some changes around here. What happened? Where did all the forums and posts go?

Frankly, I don't think much of the content on the forums is still of interest to anyone, and I'm not even sure the forums as a venue for new discussions are that valuable anymore - The forums have seen maybe a post or two in a month, chatter has moved to our Discord, and unrelated gamedev projects may be better placed in more active communities like TIGForums, which is of course where we split off from back in the day.

However, I also don't want to just delete everything - there is a chance that someone is still relying on this as the main page for their project, for example, and maybe there are some old threads that are really still valuable to someone out there. Also, the haxxy reward system relies on the forum accounts of the reward winners, and I don't really want to break that.

I'm a bit conflicted about all of this myself. I consider forums a somewhat temporary medium - not as short-lived as a chat, but there is no expectation that it will stick around forever. And I think that it's good to eventually reflect this expectation and retire these old posts which we may not always be proud of anymore. On the other hand, this place is a part of my and our past, and I'm sad at the thought of removing all the posts that reflect the life of this community over such a long time.

If time and effort were no obstacle, I'd love to keep all the high-quality content from the old days around in a read-only archive, but there are 850,000 posts on here, so it is just not feasible to sort through everything. However, if you have some specific things you would really like to save, please comment below and I'll see what I can do.

So consider this your chance to weigh in. In particular, I'd like to get some feedback on the following questions:

- Do you think we should keep the forums running for GG2 related discussions?
- Do you think we should also have a board or two for things vaquely related to GG2, like Game Maker development?
- Is there any content on the old forums that you think should be saved? Please be as specific as possible.

reply to the above already